Deus caritas est, et, qui manet in caritate, in Deo manet, et Deus in eo manet.
God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

First Letter of St. John 4:16



question on saints

13 May 2008 - My first email question has come in! I've requested feedback many times about the site, however, not many responses have ever been submitted. If I had to choose one or the other, though, I very much prefer that people question me on my faith, about which I am so passionate, rather than making comments on the format of a web-page. 8-P I firmly believe that by discussing our faiths openly, people can come to the realization that most differences are simply semantic, and we can have the unity that Jesus speaks of in the Gospel According to John, "I pray not only for them [the apostles], but also for those who will believe in me through their word, so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us... (John 17: 20-21)."

My sincere thanks go out to Tom both for asking such a great question and for letting me post his message in a reflection! Along with that, I would encourage anyone else out there who has questions about my reflections to submit them. All questions will remain anonymous and unannounced unless you specifically say its ok for me to mention anything. I'll be the first to admit that I'm no theologian and don't have many of the answers that people might ask, but thankfully, I know some extremely knowedgeable people who have the resources to answer most any question about the Roman Catholic faith.

Daniel,

I read your article about Divine Mercy where you mentioned praying to St. Faustina. I'm not catholic but want to know what you mean when a catholic prays to anyone other than God.

-Tom

People more intelligent than I have pondered this exact question, and have written down their conclusions starting with paragraph 954 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

"When the Lord comes in glory, and all his angels with him, death will be no more and all things will be subject to him. But at the present time some of his disciples are pilgrims on earth. Others have died and are being purified, while still others are in glory, contemplating 'in full light, God himself triune and one, exactly as he is'":

All of us, however, in varying degrees and in different ways share in the same charity towards God and our neighbours, and we all sing the one hymn of glory to our God. All, indeed, who are of Christ and who have his Spirit form one Church and in Christ cleave together.

The main idea expressed here is that those, who remained faithful during their life and are now in eternal glory, are just as much a part of the Body of Christ as are the faithful currently living on earth. The fact that we who remain here are a part of God's "Pigrim Church" on earth, speaks simply to the fact that we have not yet arrived in Heaven but continue to earnestly seek his glory. The people whose souls are now in the direct presence of God are seen to be part of the "Church Triumphant," a group which I'm sure all Christians one day hope to be in! These are the people who can say, "I have competed well; I have finished the race; I have kept the faith (2 Timothy 4:7)."

Since as Catholics, we acknowledge the Communion of Saints, the Catechism goes on to say in paragraph 957:

"It is not merely by the title of example that we cherish the memory of those in heaven; we seek, rather, that by this devotion to the excercise of fraternal charity the union of the whole Church in the Spirit my be strengthened. Exactly as Christian communion among our fellow pilgrims brings us closer to Christ, so our communion with the saints joins us to Christ, from whom as from its fountain and head issues all grace, and the life of the People of God itself":

We worship Christ as God's Son; we love the martyrs as the Lord's disciples and imitators, and rightly so because of their matchless devotion towards their king and master. May we also be their companions and fellow disciples!

There are several really good points about the Catholic faith which are highlighted here. First of all, our devotion to the saints is centered around Christ. Forming a type of "Holy Hall of Fame", their lives were completely devoted to loving God despite the shortcomings of their humanity. I personally take immense comfort in the fact that sinners with seemingly weak flesh can still attain to the greatest grace through Christ who is love.

Additionally, it should be noted that Catholics definitely do approach the one, triune God with our petitions as the primary step. Our worship for and relationship with God through the mediation of Christ is of utmost importance to our Catholic faith.

Finally, we see the importance of other believers to our own relationship with God. I've become completely aware of the fact that I will never fully understand the greatness of love that comprises God on my own. Each person whom I encounter likely has experienced a completely different facet of the infinite compassion that God shows to his creations. By opening myself up to the perspectives of my responsible faith role-models, I've come to have a much deeper appreciation than I ever would have reached on my own. Through study of their lives and especially through the intercession of the saints, I seek to sanctify my own life by emulating the holiness that they exhibited during their lives.

This brings me to the point of (finally) answering your question. ;-) When I "pray" to the saints, I am asking for them to intercede to God on my behalf. My personal thought is that much of the misunderstanding between Catholics and many Protestant communities comes from our understanding of the word "pray."

When I was a practicing Protestant, before 2004, I understood the concept of prayer to be defined as talking with God. My Catholic understanding of the word is more like communicating with God.

Please don't misunderstand me to be saying that we Catholics put the saints on the same level as God, because this is most certainly not the case. A good way to better explain my belief would be to give an example.

When most Christians encounter a difficult situation, such as trying to decide whether or not to move into a completely different job, they would talk the situation over with a few trusted friends, asking for their advice. Most would then go on to ask for their friends to pray for them during their discernment of the situation so that they would be able to correctly follow God's will. The communion and intercession of the saints is, in essence, no different than this. Their petitions on behalf of the faithful on earth simply seek additional communication with God. As paragraph 956 on the Catechism states:

"Being more closely united to Christ, those who dwell in heaven fix the whole Church more firmly in holiness. ...[T]hey do not cease to intercede with the Father for us, as they proffer the merits which they acquired on earth through the one mediator between God and men, Christ Jesus ... So by their fraternal concern is our weakness greatly helped."

"Do not weep, for I shall be more useful to you after my death and I shall help you then more effectively than during my life." -- St. Dominic, dying, to his brothers

"I want to spend my heaven in doing good on earth." -- St. Thérèse de Lisieux

It very much stands to reason that those who were so keenly concerned with love for and the well-being of others during their lives would not abandon their selfless passions after they enter the gates of glory. Now in the presence of the Almighty Triune God, we do believe that they ever seek the will of God through their prayers gathered around his throne. When any saint hears of a need of one of the faithful pilgrims on earth, I'm certain that they begin fervent prayer for the intention to be done if it is within the will of the Father.

Before I went through the formal rite of being accepted into the Catholic Church, on the feast of the Assumption of Mary, I heard a homily from one Fr. Ben who said, "The Hail Mary prayer is no more than a friend asking another friend to pray for them in a difficult situation. Its just that the latter friend gave birth to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ." I think that this idea speaks volumes to how I personally approach my relationship with the saints. Firmly believing that my friends are in the presence of the Almighty, I can prayerfully and hopefully ask for their prayers to be added to my own in requesting God's mercy.

In closing, please allow me to give an example from my own life. My grandfather just passed away this past February, bringing a great sense of my own loss. Based on the way in which he followed God during his days on the earth, I have no doubt in my mind that he is in heaven. Despite this belief, I still couldn't help but feel a bit of despair not only for the fact that I would not get to listen to his stories any longer or hear his laughter at one of the many jokes told by my family, but mainly because my son would never have the opportunity to meet so wonderful a person.

At the mass which I attended the Sunday after his death, the Holy Spirit called my attention to something that is said every week during the celebration of the liturgy.

"Therefore, joining with the choirs of angels and saints in proclaiming your glory, we sing, 'Holy, holy, holy Lord, God of power and might, heaven and earth are full of your glory. Hosanna in the highest. Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest.'"

I can hardly type this now without tears coming to my eyes, but these failing words cannot express how comforted I was in that moment. To be shown by God that my voice would join with Grandpa's as he sings of God's glory around his very throne, was absolutely amazing. I can say that I felt just as connected with my grandfather at that moment as I did when he was alive, if not moreso!

One of my favorite memories is when as much of the family as could, would gather at Grandpa's house for Easter to hear the Christmas story as told in the Gospel according to Luke. Every year, we would always end by singing carols and praises to God in thanksgiving for his live for us. Now, to think that every Sunday I get to sing with Grandpa remains a great comfort to me. The only difference is that one of us remains a pilgrim while the other triumphantly stands at the throne of God, praying without ceasing for those who remain on earth.

Thanks be to God!

St. Edward the Confessor

St. Juan Diego

St. Thérèse de Lisieux


Questions about this article or any other faith-based issue? Send Daniel an email and he'll do his darndest to find the answer!

Sources:
• United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. Catechism of the Catholic Church. “Paragraph 5. The Communion of Saints.” USCCB.org. 13 May 2008. http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art9p5.htm





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